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« on: November 18, 2009, 09:24:37 PM »

OK, another newbie question from me.  I apologize in advance.  What is the difference between GVW and GVWR?  I saw another used PUP (2005) Starcraft 1707.  Small, simple, etc...  GVWR is 2720 lbs.  GVW is 1699 lbs.  I Googled and can't seem to find a definition anywhere.  Again, sleep deprivation from two small kids is probably not helping my analytical ability.  Also, the people here have been awfully helpful in answering my other newbie questions.  Again, thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2009, 09:40:45 PM »

I can't tell you the difference but OZ and Chuck will chime in I bet...the the difference between the two is the CCC  which is the weight you can "carry inside the pop-up...which is 1071 lbs....(correct me if I am wrong)  That means your water, batteries, propane, clothes supplies anything you are towing inside the pop-up cannot weigh more than 1071.  Again I am just learning, hubby knows more but hey he has to sleep to work or I would ask...and I know you will get the answer so I am waiting to see as well.
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2009, 02:05:43 AM »

I hope this helps.  It pretty much explains all weights in this message thread

http://www.popupexplorer.com/forum/index.php?topic=64157.0
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2009, 04:35:54 AM »

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating is the maximum allowable weight of the vehicle.  Gross Vehicle Weight is what it weighs at any point in time.  Often stated in camper ads as the Dry Weight or Empty Weight and is intentionally listed low enough so you think you can tow it with an minivan.   Wink

Trailer Cargo Carrying Capacity is simply the difference between what the trailer weighs empty and the maximum allowable weight.

Maximum towing capacity of your tow vehicle is completely different from any of these.  Be sure your vehicle can safely tow the GVWR of the camper, it's hard to keep it below this weight in any case.

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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2009, 07:36:05 AM »

Thanks to all.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2009, 08:38:00 AM »

Gross Vehicle Weight is what it weighs at any point in time.

As too is the case with Gross Tongue Weight ... it's amazing how so many quote a factory tongue weight for a particular trailer and don't realize how much greater the actual gross tongue weight will be once the trailer is loaded and ready to camp, nor even that it will vary, sometimes considerably, when the load in the trailer itself changes.  The only way to know for sure just what the trailer's GVW is as it's typically loaded for camping is to go weigh it ... and the only way you're going to know what the Gross Tongue Weight will be under the same situation is to periodically measure it also.
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2009, 08:50:28 AM »

As said above, GVW is what your trailer actually weighs, including the weight of all options, fluids, add ons, and gear.  GVWR is the limit that GVW should never exceed.  The tires, axle and springs on your trailer are all picked based on the assumption that GVW will not exceed GVWR.  If you do exceed that limit you risk blowing tires, weakening springs and even bowing the axle.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2009, 09:18:48 AM »

RV & Vehicle Weight Definitions
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2009, 10:40:17 AM »

Aha.  This is exactly what I was looking for.
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2009, 11:59:21 AM »

Another soruce is the manufacturer website.
The 1707 doesn't seem available for 2010 but here is the spec for the Starcraft 2009 models.

Note the UVW (unloaded vehicle weight - approx. lbs.) of 1612
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