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« on: April 21, 2015, 07:40:27 AM »

Hi,
I am new to the forum and have a question about what would be an easier way to fuel a 40' toy hauler. We have recently sold our nice 'little' 28' trailer and upgraded to an used toy hauler for a more freeing off road experience. However, going bigger has created some challenges for us. One of them is fueling the beast.  Does anyone have any advice as to what some solutions might be as we would like to continue to enjoy our purchase newest purchase, without the heated marital discussions around fueling?   Roll Eyes

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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2015, 07:43:18 AM »

I use a credit card.

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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2015, 07:50:47 AM »

Fuel up at truck stops.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2015, 08:15:01 AM »

Sorry guys, I guess I should have been more clear on my 'challenges'. Kevin, we do use a credit card. :D The challenges is that the unit with the truck is approximately 65' long and the tank for the truck is on the drivers side. So when my husband pulled in to a fuel station the first time he had to navigate thru the middle pumps. Thank goodness there were no other vehicles being fueled on the other inside pumps. At the truck stops, isn't a business fuel card required?
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2015, 10:02:00 AM »

Fuel up at truck stops.

+1.......Most truck stops take recreational dollars. Fuel depots I have seen that are not open to the public, in my experience, are generally those fuel depots that are unattended and a commercial account is required for fuel purchase.

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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2015, 12:29:53 PM »

Thank you Kevin, I will be sure to use this.   Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2015, 03:04:14 PM »

A truck stop is the best way to go, plus they have the large nozzles on their pumps so you can fill up quickly if it's diesel you need. 

If you need to use a regular station, a lot of stations are inaccessible these days for anything hauling a trailer, so you need to be able to see your way out before you go in.  If you do get in, often you end up blocking station traffic, but what can you do other than try to be fast.  In those cases, watch out for tail swing when you pull away -- keep away from the pumps and try to delay your turn as late as possible so you don't slap the pumps when you turn.  If I am concerned I get DW to watch the trailer while I pull away.

The top-drawer solution in my opinion is to mod your truck and install more fuel carrying capacity, either by upgrading the OEM fuel tank, adding a auxiliary fuel tank to automatically feed your truck's main tank, or adding a transfer tank so that you can top up the truck's tank when you need to.  These are not what I'd call inexpensive.

What I'm in the middle of doing is a cheaper version of the above -- I bought a 12V diesel pump that has a 10 gallon per minute flow rate, and four 5 gallon diesel jerry cans.  So this gives me almost double the range of my factory tank and I won't be forced to stop where it would be difficult.  Instead, we could pull over almost anywhere and I will be able to use the pump to quickly transfer between one and four jerry cans into the truck tank.  That way I can save fuelling up the truck and jerry cans to when I don't have the trailer connected or when we find a truck stop with lots of room.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2015, 04:46:53 PM »

Where did you get the pump Paul?
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2015, 05:28:57 PM »

Picked it up at The Princess on the weekend.  Here's the link:  http://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/12v-diesel-fuel-transfer-pump/A-p8469405e

The shortest hose for it is 12' so I picked up one of those for $34 with a plan to slice it into an 8' section and a 4' section but I think I'll get another 12 footer when they come on sale, so I have threaded ends on each end, for future flexibility.

My plan is to cut off the alligator clips off the pump and wire it up to a 4-pin flat plug so that I can run it off the connector on the back of the truck that's beside the 7-pin Bargman.  There's no power on a 4-pin so I'll have to turn on my parking lights and connect to the brown wire.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2015, 06:08:30 AM »

Thank you Geodude. I will be sure to share with my husband. Last night he was looking into to seeing how much it would be to have a fuel transfer case installed on our truck. All of your ideas are great alternatives.

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2015, 08:53:35 AM »

All advice above is good.  Personally now that we've moved up to a long rig, my plan is to stick to the larger gas stations & truck stops, and if I end up on fumes with the only option impossible to navigate, I'll have a gas can so I can get a few gallons in the tank and move on to the next attempt.  We've always used the truck stops for occasional overnight stops and keep a gas can for the generator, so not much of a difference really.
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2016, 01:12:46 PM »

And check out Flying J truck stops (now owned by Pilot). They usually have an RV lane for long vehicles and/or vehicles with trailers. You stay on the "car" side of the truck stop so you're not mixing with the big rigs, and you can get gasoline or diesel without scraping the pumps.
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